A typical conversation about Jesus
by Paul ~ July 27th, 2010 at 4:00 pmToday we were at a lake playing with some awesome water play-structure things they have there. A woman and her son walk up and start playing alongside us. She was asking me about Luke and we got to chatting. She shared some big hardships in her life and struggles they were going through.
I eventually shared that we were there because of a baptism. She seemed kind of shifty at that remark. As our conversation continued, I felt God nudging me to ask her about Jesus. Now, I’ve done this many a times… but I am always nervous at this point. I almost always have a little argument with God like “are you sure I should ask that??”.
We ended up having a conversation that I have literally had dozens of times in similar ways. We’ll call the woman Tanya for this example.
Me: “So… do you know the Lord Jesus?”
Tanya: ”Well… I volunteer at a church ya know.”
Me: (I continue looking at her for more explanation)
Tanya: ”I serve at the Salvation Army.”
Me: “That’s wonderful, but I didn’t ask you that. I asked about your relationship with Jesus Christ. How is that going?”
Tanya: “Well… I haven’t been going to church regularly…. but I do pray…”
Me: “That’s great, prayer is a great way to talk to God. But I didn’t ask you about that either. So, do you know about your condition and why you need Jesus?”
Tanya: ”Umm… what?”
Me: “Why do you need Jesus?”
Tanya: ”I need God for everything.”
Me: ”True. But why do you specifically need Jesus. Why did Jesus have to die for you?”
Tanya: ”I dunno… why?”
Me: ”Because, you’re a sinner.”
Tanya: ”Me?!?” (looked surprised and possibly offended)
Me: ”Yes. You’re a sinner and I’m a sinner. We are all sinners. As it says in the Bible: All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And it also says that: ‘No one is righteous, not even one.’ We’re sinners, which is why we need Jesus’ salvation. We receive that by faith, it’s not about the things we “do” but in the relationship with have with Jesus. So… how is your relationship with Jesus? Did you come to a realization of the depth of your sin?”
Tanya: ”Um, yeah. I did. My relationship is good. Well kind of. Well maybe not. I dunno…. (trailed off).”
At that point Luke decided to run off, so I told her about a good nearby church, said a blessing for her family, invited her to come over and join us at our BBQ, and said good-bye. It appears that something was going on, I only pray that God is using that to bring her to Himself!
I’ve had this same conversation SO many times. People turn to religiosity rather than Jesus. They see going to church, prayer, or service as “works” that please God. Ultimately this is an attempt to buy off God’s favor rather than be humbled by our sin and seek the glorious grace that is freely offered to us (praise be to God for that!).

A few weeks ago I was stopped outside of a Christian ministry building to do a free blood pressure test. The woman who helped me told me I have the blood pressure of a healthy 19 year old (PTL!). She asked me what I did to stay healthy. I said I eat a lot of salads (thanks to my wonderful wife’s devotion to nutrition!) and exercise a lot (especially running after Luke!). She shared with me about her community health organization. She said she’s there to share about the benefits of nutrition and exercise for those with high blood pressure.








